Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christian..
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Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christian..
What you have compiled are a collection of beliefs and opinions regarding Christian theology, borrowing largely from the school of individual interpretation.

Error #1. "so for the other religions such as mithra and zoroasterianism, there is no proof that christianity took from them, but more likely they took from christianity because of its rapid growth."

Dear Dawn, go back to University. Mithras worship is ancient and predates Christianity by a long shot. It was a standard religious cult og Greece and Rome BEFORE there were even Christians. Also if you bother to read early Christian history, you will read discourses between pagans of Greece and Rome against Christians explaining the same things I have said, that Christians borrowed from this pagan cult. This is why December 25, and ressurection at Easter time still are described as Christian holidays.

"In Persia Mithra was the protector God of the tribal society until the Zoroaster`s reformation of Persian polytheism (628-55BC). Mithra like the rest of the gods and goddess of the Iranian Pantheon was stripped of his sovereignty, and all his powers and attributes were bestowed upon Zarathrustra.

Mithraism began in Persia where originally a multitude of gods were worshipped. Amongst them were Ahura-Mazda, god of the skies, and Ahriman, god of darkness. In the sixth and seventh century B.C., a vast reformation of the Persian pantheon was undertaken by Zarathustra (known in Greek as Zoroaster), a prophet from the kingdom of Bactria. The stature of Ahura-Mazda was elevated to that of supreme god of goodness, whereas the god Ahriman became the ultimate embodiment of evil.

In the same way that Ahkenaton, Abraham, Heliogabalus, and Mohammed later initiated henotheistic cults from the worship of their respective deities, Zarathustra created a henotheistic dualism with the gods Ahura-Mazda and Ahriman. As a result of the Babylonian captivity of the Jews (597 B.C.) and their later emancipation by King Cyrus the Great of Persia (538 B.C.), Zoroastrian dualism was to influence the Jewish belief in the existence of HaShatan, the malicious Adversary of the god Yahweh, and later permit the evolution of the Christian Satan-Jehovah dichotomy. Persian religious dualism became the foundation of an ethical system that has lasted until this day."

As you see here, Zoroastrianism is so ancient that its theology actually influenced Judaism, which predates Christianity by several centuries.

I have no hatred of religion, I am a student of world religions. Lol, I only oppose ignorant, prejudicial missionary intolerance and evangelism.



"Mithras was also known throughout Europe and Asia by the names Mithra, Mitra, Meitros, Mihr, Mehr, and Meher. The veneration of this God began about 4000 years ago in Persia, where it was soon imbedded with Babylonian doctrines." Mithraism is the ancient Roman mystery cult of the god Mithras. Roman worship of Mithras began sometime during the early Roman empire, perhaps during the late first century of the Common Era (hereafter CE), and flourished from the second through the fourth centuries CE.

While it is fairly certain that Romans encountered worship of the deity Mithras as part of Zoroastrianism in the eastern provinces of the empire, particularly in Asia Minor (now modern Turkey), the exact origins of cult practices in the Roman cult of Mithras remain controversial.

For over three hundred years the rulers of the Roman Empire worshipped the god Mithras. In Rome, more than a hundred inscriptions dedicated to Mithras have been found, in addition to 75 sculpture fragments, and a series of Mithraic temples situated in all parts of the city. One of the largest Mithraic temples built in Italy now lies under the present site of the Church of St. Clemente, near the Colosseum in Rome."

http://www.crystalinks.com/mithra.html




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  Hitler was a christian..   Daljit Singh10/07/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Daljit Singh10/08/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/14/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/14/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/14/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Xena10/14/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Xena10/18/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Xena10/18/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Daljit Singh10/19/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Xena10/19/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/20/2004
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                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   joshan10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   Dawn10/20/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/22/2004
                                  Re: Re: Re: Hitler was a christia   sukhpreet10/22/2004
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