hahah randip, do you know what you just did? hhahaha, im cracking up here, you just wrote the exact shabads that the essay debated. It just proved your lack of understanding and how meat eaters use obsecure shabads to prove their point. they have 2-3 obsecurities and think that will mask the true meaning of sikhi. nice try bud.

 

Ok I take this means you have been defeated and cannot debate any more points?

I have destroyed every single point you have tried to make. I have used YOUR quotes and exposed them for the mistranslation and misrepresentation they are.

That idiotic AKJ essay could not even get Mohsin Fani`s quote right, so how can it be credible.

Here is a reminder: Let us take the Mohsin Fani quote:

From the AKJ essay (vii) Mohsin Fani (1615-70), the well known historian and a contemporary of Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib, writes in his work DABISTAN-E- MAZAHIB as follows: "Having prohibited his disciples to drink wine and eat pork, he (Nanak) himself abstained from eating flesh and ordered not to hurt any living being. After him this precept was neglected by his followers; but Aijun Mal, one of the substitutes of his Faith, renewed the prohibition to eat flesh and said: This has not been approved by Nanak"

Here is the actual quote:

In Mobad Dabistan-I Mazahib 1645-46, the author states:

Many person became his disciples. Nanak believed in the Oneness of God and in the way that it is asserted in Muhammadan theology. He also believed in transmigration of souls. Holding wine and pork to be unlawful, he had [himself] abandoned eating meat. He decreed avoidance of causing harm to animals. It was after his time that meat-eating spread amongst his followers. Arjan Mal, who was on of his lineal succesors, found this to be evil. He prohibited people from eating meat, saying "This is not in accordance with Nanak`s wishes". Later, Hargobind, son of Arjan Mal, ate meat and took to hunting. Most of their [the Gurus] followers adopted his practice.

Mobad Dabistan-I Mazahib 1645-46

My challenge stands, if you want to debate Sikhism come to www.sikhphilosophy.net and lets see how you fare in the arena with the big boys.

Game set and match!